Questions About Independent Fundamental Baptists, Leighton Flowers, & Justin Peters Right Response Ministries 36K subscribers Subscribe 10K views 1 month ago GEORGETOWN Can you name one thing. BTW, I went to Carolina Baptist College, Reidsville, NC, (Reidsville Baptist Church, Pastor Jerry Carter,) 1998-2002. While practices can vary from church to church, independent fundamental Baptists do share some core beliefs, according to Christianity Today: that the Bible is the divinely inspired and inerrant word of God, for example, and that people should use only the King James Version of the text.Independent fundamental Baptists refrain from engaging in pop culture and many also home-school their kids. He is supported by the pastor, Greg Neal, and his Twitter feed shows him traveling around the country, welcomed at churches. That will needs to be eliminated, since wherever human will is God's will cannot be. If you're unfamiliar with the beliefs and practices of the Independent Fundamental Baptists, some of them are: IFBs also generally believe that the will of a child must be broken before it ever has a chance to develop: a fussing or crying baby is exerting its selfish will. It used to be that independent Baptists separated themselves from other Christians over important doctrines, such as the virgin birth of Christ or the inspiration of the Scriptures. Sorted by: 1. And then the other philosophy is its wrong to say anything bad about another preacher.. The submissiveness of women to their husbands can be found here which is not only present in churches, this is a cultural phenomenon which also impacts the faith. If the crying is still defiant, protesting and other than a response to pain, spank him again. They try to control people and do evangelize. SPECIAL: Prayer Changes Your Brain in 4 Amazing Ways 1. Exempt this special report from your paywall. The items you are questioning are not the "doctrine" of independent fundamental Baptists. The Lord Jesus Christ Saves - His Plan of Salvatio Real Men Love Pink A Collection of Quotes by A. W. Pink, Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry. What's Wrong with the Independent Fundamental Baptists? If I do Ill comment on this comment with details. The Fort Worth Star-Telegram has done some very impressive and important reporting in its long special report on sexual abuse and cover-ups in independent fundamental Baptist churches across the country. Her community turned on her, even though she was defending their health; most of the people in the community worked at local chemical plants, and they feared that the pharmacists allegations would cost them their jobs. Your pastor is burdened for America & hasnt slept since 1976. It has been redacted and edited into the simplified 1611 King James Bible (its not a version, versions are of Satan). Here are the 5 key issues that have hurt the Independent Baptist world in some cases, as well as greatly damaging the lives of some believers: A Failure To Adequately Preach The Bible When our preaching goes backward, the whole apple cart rocks and soon turns over. 2023 BuzzFeed, Inc. All rights reserved. The name Independent Fundamental Baptist Church is used traditionally by churches which pattern themselves strictly after the example of the early church, as found in the New Testament. Cat got his tongue? When he got in trouble, Hyles was able to simply move on, from one church assignment to the next. Like the millions of others around the country who need to read these stories, they wont be able to unless they subscribe to a newspaper hundreds of miles from where they live. Thou shalt study various martial arts disciplines, as these are masculine. Thou shalt wear the sweatshirts & caps of your favorite basketball team; they are only evil & worldly if you choose to go to college there. You could look into resolutions by Fundamental Baptist Fellowship International or World Congress of . The King James Version is the only true Word of God; all other translations of the Bible are the work of the devil. We took sweet fellowship together. You ought to repent of this attitude and behavior while you are yet alive and repair your relationship with a God who undoubtedly still loves you, and stop taking an active hand in encouraging others to sin against a Holy God and ensuring their damnation. If you spend any time covering sexual abuse story, any belief that congregations are never complicit in abuse and cover-up goes evaporates quickly. Thou shalt not eat at a restaurant on Sunday. Christians are called to remain steadfastly separate from the world and its sinful practices and temptations, such as movies, dancing and any music with an addictive rock beat. Additionally, many independent Baptist fundamentalists practice "second-degree separatism," distancing themselves not only from "the world" but also from fellow Christians who do not share. Then Hyles would yell from the pulpit that If the barn needed paintingand the men would hoopla with their Bibles waving in the air. I am curious why the Ifb doesnt want Christians to go to the movie theatre? All of us, Christians and atheists alike, have lists of rules by which we govern our lives, and often judge the lives of others. You're the power. They kept what worked for them. Im still a believer but cringe when I hear someone try to say what is sin and what is not. I thank God for that newspaper and what it has done for His children. The writings that I've read from former IFBs are some of the strongest testimonies to the strength and decency of the human spirit I've ever come across. It's chief spokesman was J.R. Graves (1820-1893) and other key early figures include A.C. Dayton (1813-1865) and J.M. Ernest Willis found guilty of raping teen Tina Anderson, a fellow church member. Shellnut is also helpful in clarifying just who these independent fundamentalist Baptists are: Around 2.5 percent of Americans identify as independent Baptists, according to thePew Research Center more than belong to the Assemblies of God, Churches of Christ, or Episcopal and Anglican churches. The biggest difference would be in the way they practice separation. Oh, as a new convert attending an Adventist college, I actually said, heck or darn around one of the older teachers (40 years ago). Generally speaking howe. A minority of Baptists contend that Baptist churches originated in the first century, deducing their claim from the fact that Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist. It's you who are singing the songs that need to be heard. Select your instrument according to the child's size. Biblical authority: the Bible is God's inspired Word and the final authority for what a person believes and practices. Good day, sir. Yes, Jesus. If you are a young woman, thou shalt wear knee-length dresses, with hose and heels at summer camp in the woods in the red clay mud when it rains. Because its in human nature, for one, and for another, because the clergy have an extraordinary amount of power (real and symbolic) within the ecclesiology of both churches. Im saved now, right? Much of this movement was a response to the so-called neo-evangelical movement. Careers Workplace and Religion Columnists, Recreation Outdoors and Religion Columnists, Religious Music and Entertainment Columnists, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, special report on sexual abuse and cover-ups in independent fundamental Baptist churches across the country, Hundreds Accuse Independent Baptist Pastors of Abuse, Hundreds of Sex Abuse Allegations Found in Fundamentalist BaptistChurches, Slavery and 'how to interpret the Bible' (cont'd.). Independent Fundamental Baptist Churches Are MODERN Churches! Where you write the rules. Autonomy of local churches: each church is independent. Spending TOO MUCH time with conspiracy theories than fundamental Bible preaching. Or their kids just went to Rutgers, but with the assurance that they would be faithful members of a Campus Crusade chapter there. They controlled the process except for the final approval. Then, say people who were in attendance, he proceeded to praise Giovanelli. Tags: Independent Fundamental Baptist The Gospel Kent Brandenburg's Assessment of Independent Baptists By Jim Apr 29 2015 I was rejected by two independent fundamentalist Baptist congregations in two different states, but I stand in their defense. Thou shalt not drive a nice car for that is vanity and takes money from the missionaries who need airplanes and new tin roofs, and food out of the fat visiting evangelists bellies (unless your the man of god, then you can drive a Suburban or a $95k brand new F350). Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/gods-grace-bible-study-wi/support Truth Unbound with Walter Swaim 11h ago One of my other professors did allow that saying shoot was okay, as she was used to people from Ohio saying it! Why? (3) Megachurch leaders face the ordinary temptations but also extraordinary pressure to cover up problems, knowing that a sniff of scandal will summon packs of critical reporters. We were you at one time. Both times, people knew about his would-be abusers behavior and did nothing to stop it. Will you join us? For decades, women and children have faced rampant sexual abuse while worshiping at independent fundamental Baptist churches around the country. The one thing I do want to say for anyone just making their way out of the darkness of Independent Fundamental Baptists is this: that you once so thoroughly bought into IFB is a sign of your strength, not your weakness. This letter is in downloadable as a PDF here. For one, they lack a unified presence since individual churches largely operate on their own. Note how Jerry Falwell Jr. and Liberty University no longer identify as fundamentalist, but as evangelical and note how this assertion is accepted, unquestioned, by other evangelicals. None were ever convicted due to being men of god. And like everyone else in the world you want that love to mean something, to be incorporated into and desired by something worthy of it. The short answer is that going to the movies supported Hollywood. Look at homosexuality within the priesthood. But they also have a high regard for the Bible. New Independent Fundamentalist Baptist churches (also known as the New IFB) or officially the New Independent Fundamental Baptist Movement are an association of conservative, King James Only, independent Baptist churches. Stuart Hardy was a youth and music pastor at an independent fundamental Baptist church in Michigan. He and his wife have six grown children and thirteen grandchildren. Not sure if they are trinitarian. (1)"I put him on the "auto trash" list because he never offers anything that is edifying, or even Biblical, but just his snide remarks and liberal/protestant opinions!" (2) "You are not my brother. al. Blockbuster report about systemic sex crimes in ultra-conservative Protestant churches. I may yet end up in Hell myself, but I wont see you there, nor will you see me. They kept what they needed. Still, Giovanelli found a soft landing at Immanuel Baptist Church in Jacksonville, Florida, where he is an associate pastor and head of the churchs book publication arm. * This paywall nonsense is unnecessary, counter-productive, and really disrespectful of the papers investigative team. Are you saying God is a legalist? Most of those victims dont live in Fort Worth. In 1638, he founded the first Baptist church in America in uncolonized Rhode Island. They used you as fodder in the war between themselves and everything they fear. People do not like to be made to confront ugly things. Thou shalt leave tracts in various and sundry places: the aisles of Walmart, in library books, at the doctors office, so that all may know the Good News of the Gospel. She then administers [to a three-year-old] about ten slow, patient licks on his bare legs. The Official Independent Baptist Rulebook, Known in Some Churches as Church Standards. While neo-evangelicals sent their kids to Wheaton College or Fuller Theological Seminary, fundamentalist Baptist kids went toBob Jones UniversityorPensacola Christian College. We may read these stories of sexual abuse in churches, and tell ourselves that if something like that happened in our church, we would stand up for what is right. Baptist. The primary function of a woman is to have children, who then become her mission field. 3. Single. [8] They refuse any form of ecclesial authority other than that of the local church. IFB takes the "I" in its title extremely seriously; they are nothing if not independent. Mullins knew that he had faculty problems, Sampey did, Fuller did, McCall did . Hyles flight to safety has become a well-worn path for ministers in the independent fundamental Baptist movement. Other Christians who were once, or who would once have been, clearly a part of the fundamentalist camp Al Mohler, Ken Ham, David Barton, etc. Can same-sex couples be married in your church? Though not all in the movement look the same, the Duggars showcase several theological and cultural distinctives common among independent fundamental Baptists: adhering to strict biblical inerrancy, usually based exclusively on the King James Version (KJV); homeschooling; abstaining from pop culture as entertainment; and dressing modestly. The Independent Baptist Fellowship is the end-product of the legacy journey that started some 60 years ago. They pretended to be something they weren't. If, after putting him down, you remember he just woke up, do not reward his complaining by allowing him to get up. The reason why Im so fervent, so passionate about it this morning is because I relived all of those feelings of what its like to be abused and the one that does the abuse is the one that always comes out the other side smelling like a rose and goes down the road to another church so he can do it again to somebody else..